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	<title>Technicalities &#187; SCons</title>
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		<title>Touching like spacemen</title>
		<link>http://www.sirena.org.uk/log/2008/08/26/touching-like-spacemen/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brown</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rhonda, have you reported the SCons problems you&#8217;ve found to either the Debian mantainer or upstream? That&#8217;s much more likely to be an effective way of improving things than blogging about them. For what it&#8217;s worth the .scons files are a bug in the SCons core AFAICT (it needs a distclean equivalent that doesn&#8217;t appear [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda, have you reported the <a href="http://alfie.ist.org/blog/2008/08/26#scons-annoys.en">SCons problems you&#8217;ve found</a> to either the Debian mantainer or upstream? That&#8217;s much more likely to be an effective way of improving things than blogging about them. For what it&#8217;s worth the .scons files are a bug in the SCons core AFAICT (it needs a distclean equivalent that doesn&#8217;t appear to be there; I suspect nobody has asked for it before) and the failure to clean up other generated files will be bugs in the support for whatever tool is being used to do the build.</p>
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		<title>SCons DESTDIR support</title>
		<link>http://www.sirena.org.uk/log/2007/09/27/scons-destdir-support/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brown</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, it&#8217;s not make that supports for DESTDIR &#8211; it&#8217;s the Makefiles that do it, usually as one of the many features picked up from automake. Half the problem SCons has with this is that there&#8217;s no similarly pervasive tool set to at least set standards (even people who don&#8217;t use automake often emulate the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.cihar.com/">Michael</a>, it&#8217;s not make that <a href="http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2007/09/27/sconst_is_next-generation_build_tool/">supports for DESTDIR</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s the Makefiles that do it, usually as one of the many features picked up from automake. Half the problem <a href="http://www.scons.org/">SCons</a> has with this is that there&#8217;s no similarly pervasive tool set to at least set standards (even people who don&#8217;t use automake often emulate the features that people actually use) and the focus has mostly been on pure make functionality so there&#8217;s really nothing there for installation and packaging. This has resulted in projects using SCons each coming up with their own approach to these things &#8211; which can boil down to no approach at all.</p>
<p>The situation for SCons ought to be improved fairly soon thanks to a pair Summer of Code projects from this year and last year which will together give SCons automake-style functionality &#8211; hopefully once they&#8217;re merged people will start using them when they distribute their software. In the meantime you could always ask upstream to implement DESTDIR support.</p>
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